Legislature(2011 - 2012)HOUSE FINANCE 519

03/19/2012 01:30 PM House FINANCE


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Delayed to 2:00 p.m. Today --
+ HB 258 NATURALLY OCCURRING ASBESTOS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ HB 337 BD OF ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS, SURVEYORS TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled But Not Heard
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 245 SNOW CLASSIC TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 245(FIN) Out of Committee
HOUSE BILL NO. 245                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act establishing a snow classic as an authorized                                                                       
     form of charitable gaming."                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:10:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze discussed housekeeping.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Vice-chair  Fairclough  MOVED  to ADOPT  proposed  committee                                                                    
substitute for  HB 245,  Work Draft  27-LS0862\E (Luckhaupt,                                                                    
3/19/12). There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
JOE  MICHEL, STAFF,  REPRESENTATIVE BILL  STOLTZE, explained                                                                    
the  changes in  the  CS.  He stated  that  the first  three                                                                    
Sections  of  the legislation  remained  the  same. He  drew                                                                    
committee attention to Section 4,  which had been amended to                                                                    
include the internet or an internet communication.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Costello  clarified  that  the  use  of  the                                                                    
internet was  for informational purposes  only and  that the                                                                    
sale of tickets through the internet was prohibited.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Michel replied  in the affirmative. He  added that rules                                                                    
on  the federal  level  related to  interstate commerce  had                                                                    
necessitated the prohibition.                                                                                                   
Co-Chair  Stoltze noted  that  the CS  had  been drafted  in                                                                    
concurrence  with the  bill sponsor.  He furthered  that the                                                                    
internet had  been included in  the legislation in  order to                                                                    
address the increase of internet advertising.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JULI   LUCKY,  STAFF,   REPRESENTATIVE   MIKE  HAWKER   (via                                                                    
teleconference),   testified  that   the   sponsor  had   no                                                                    
objection to the changes in the CS.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze  noted there  was  not  an updated  fiscal                                                                    
note.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Vice-chair Fairclough wondered whether  there was a limit on                                                                    
the cost of raffle tickets.  She reported that the state had                                                                    
limited the  price of  raffle tickets  to $10.  She believed                                                                    
the number  was very low.  She added that under  current law                                                                    
any  non-profit organization  that sold  tickets at  a price                                                                    
higher than $10 was in violation.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:14:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze  relayed  that  he  had  purchased  raffle                                                                    
tickets  that   were  over  $10.   He  requested   that  the                                                                    
Department   of  Revenue   (DOR)  speak   to  the   specific                                                                    
regulations.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JEFF  PRATHER,  SUPERVISOR,   GAMING  GROUP,  TAX  DIVISION,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT OF  REVENUE, clarified that  there was a  $10 per                                                                    
ticket limit on special draw  raffles. There was no limit on                                                                    
any other type of raffle ticket.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze  asked for a  definition of a  special draw                                                                    
raffle.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Prather  explained that  the special  draw raffle  was a                                                                    
raffle where the  winner was determined by  means other than                                                                    
a drawing.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-chair Fairclough felt that  the law was currently being                                                                    
interpreted incorrectly.  She asked if there  were limits on                                                                    
balloon or ring draw sales.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Prather replied that the  special draw permit capped the                                                                    
price at $10.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze  believed  there  needed to  be  a  better                                                                    
education  process  among  the  non-profits  conducting  the                                                                    
raffle events.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Vice-chair  Fairclough shared  that the  issue had  troubled                                                                    
her for years. She stated  that she had repeatedly asked DOR                                                                    
why the price  was set at $10 but had  received no response.                                                                    
She furthered that charities attempting  to raise money were                                                                    
limited by the low price.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:20:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-chair Fairclough  MOVED to report CSHB  245(FIN) out of                                                                    
committee   with   individual    recommendations   and   the                                                                    
accompanying fiscal  note. There being NO  OBJECTION, it was                                                                    
so ordered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CSHB  245(FIN) was  REPORTED  out of  committee  with a  "do                                                                    
pass" recommendation  and with  a previously  published zero                                                                    
fiscal note: FN1 (REV).                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:20:54 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:23:31 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB258.Trans.Sectional.vTpdf.pdf HFIN 3/19/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 258
HB258.Trans.Sectional.vT.docx HFIN 3/19/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 258
HB258.NWALT.Support.LTR.pdf HFIN 3/19/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 258
HB258.Nana.Support.LTR.pdf HFIN 3/19/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 258
HB258.Ambler.Exposure.Report.2005.pdf HFIN 3/19/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 258
HB258 Sponsor Statement pdf.pdf HFIN 3/19/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 258
HB 258 INE study.pdf HFIN 3/19/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 258
27th.2nd.SS.HB258.docx HFIN 3/19/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 258
HB337 Supporting Documents- Written Testimony D Hale Public 02-24-2012.pdf HFIN 3/19/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 337
HB337 Supporting Documents- Letter Harley Hightower- Public 02-24-2012.pdf HFIN 3/19/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 337
HB 337 -Supporting Document-Letter-AELS Position Paper-Harley Hightower 02-29-2012.pdf HFIN 3/19/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 337
HB 337 Supporting Document- Letter- Richard Rearick 03-01-2012.pdf HFIN 3/19/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 337
HB 337 Supporting Document- Letter of Support- Cliff Baker- 3-1-2012.pdf HFIN 3/19/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 337
HB 337 Supporting Document- Letter- Burdett Lent 03-01-2012.pdf HFIN 3/19/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 337
HB 337 Sponsor Statement.pdf HFIN 3/19/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 337
HB258 CSWORKDRAFT 27-LS0400S.pdf HFIN 3/19/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 258
HB258.Ambler.NOAIssues.Priority.pdf HFIN 3/19/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 258
HB258.Changes. versionT.VersionS.pdf HFIN 3/19/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 258
HB 245 CS WORKDRAFT 27-LS0862-E.pdf HFIN 3/19/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 245